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		<title>By: keif</title>
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		<dc:creator>keif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inn all honesty, I&#039;d rather criticize and question than try to rip to pieces. Without an active dialogue/knowledge of the person it&#039;s hard to really tear it pieces. So thanks for the compliment and not tearing *me* to pieces.

I *love love love* that you call them out. More people should call out companies that do things - in the individuals eye - as hypocritical, as they put forth a face (i.e. &quot;Do No Evil&quot;) that is vague enough to be interpreted a google plus ways. I *think* it&#039;s one way. you may see it as a variation of the same way, and reader X can see it another. That&#039;s the problem with generic company policy like that.

Islamic terrorism genre is scary, but the psycho &quot;Jesus Camps&quot; scare the bejeezus out of me as well, but I haven&#039;t sought out either genre on youtube - I am not interested in the latest jihad, nor am I interested in the latest brainwashing of American youth that&#039;s just as bad (&#039;kill yourself for Jesus, kids, it&#039;s what God wants). I don&#039;t search it, but it exists, and I like knowing that if in ten years I want to learn about it, I can, as scary as that is.

I wish Google/YouTube/the internet in general had a better rating system. My son (okay, he&#039;s one and can&#039;t type yet, I digress) doesn&#039;t need to see this, but at a point in his life he should be able to research it for himself (with adequate knowledge being passed to myself, so I can help explain it, or at least have more information available to him) if he so desires.

I don&#039;t like the blatant disregard for knowledge we&#039;re giving it. Ignore it and it&#039;ll go away is just wrong. But I digress again...

I&#039;m with you. You keep caling them out on it, I&#039;ll keep backing you up and raising questions. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inn all honesty, I&#8217;d rather criticize and question than try to rip to pieces. Without an active dialogue/knowledge of the person it&#8217;s hard to really tear it pieces. So thanks for the compliment and not tearing *me* to pieces.</p>
<p>I *love love love* that you call them out. More people should call out companies that do things &#8211; in the individuals eye &#8211; as hypocritical, as they put forth a face (i.e. &#8220;Do No Evil&#8221;) that is vague enough to be interpreted a google plus ways. I *think* it&#8217;s one way. you may see it as a variation of the same way, and reader X can see it another. That&#8217;s the problem with generic company policy like that.</p>
<p>Islamic terrorism genre is scary, but the psycho &#8220;Jesus Camps&#8221; scare the bejeezus out of me as well, but I haven&#8217;t sought out either genre on youtube &#8211; I am not interested in the latest jihad, nor am I interested in the latest brainwashing of American youth that&#8217;s just as bad (&#8216;kill yourself for Jesus, kids, it&#8217;s what God wants). I don&#8217;t search it, but it exists, and I like knowing that if in ten years I want to learn about it, I can, as scary as that is.</p>
<p>I wish Google/YouTube/the internet in general had a better rating system. My son (okay, he&#8217;s one and can&#8217;t type yet, I digress) doesn&#8217;t need to see this, but at a point in his life he should be able to research it for himself (with adequate knowledge being passed to myself, so I can help explain it, or at least have more information available to him) if he so desires.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the blatant disregard for knowledge we&#8217;re giving it. Ignore it and it&#8217;ll go away is just wrong. But I digress again&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you. You keep caling them out on it, I&#8217;ll keep backing you up and raising questions. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey.  First of all, let me say how happy I am to see someone riffing on a policy post I did at Mashable that isn&#039;t trying to tear me to pieces.  It warms the cockles of my heart. :-)

I&#039;ll say this, though, you&#039;re absolutely right.  Lieberman was right to want these guys off YouTube, Malkin was right to refute them with their videos (as were many others, I&#039;m learning from other commenters), and YouTube/Google is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong on most things when it comes to censorship.

I&#039;ve been riding YouTube/Google really hard since I started seeing a pattern earlier this year, but I tried to ease up in the rhetoric on this one, since when I come down too hard on Google, for some reason I get called a fascist (I have no idea what the connection is, just that it happens).

Google does quality work. They also have a modern day hippie mindset and Paul Bucheit&#039;s &quot;don&#039;t be evil&quot; taped to their company motto.  This garners them too much good will.

I hope that more folks will start holding their feet to the fire on this sort of stuff. The Islamic terrorism genre isn&#039;t the only area where they really fail in their duties to uphold free speech and common decency.

I&#039;ll keep calling them out as long as you do, deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey.  First of all, let me say how happy I am to see someone riffing on a policy post I did at Mashable that isn&#8217;t trying to tear me to pieces.  It warms the cockles of my heart. :-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say this, though, you&#8217;re absolutely right.  Lieberman was right to want these guys off YouTube, Malkin was right to refute them with their videos (as were many others, I&#8217;m learning from other commenters), and YouTube/Google is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong on most things when it comes to censorship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been riding YouTube/Google really hard since I started seeing a pattern earlier this year, but I tried to ease up in the rhetoric on this one, since when I come down too hard on Google, for some reason I get called a fascist (I have no idea what the connection is, just that it happens).</p>
<p>Google does quality work. They also have a modern day hippie mindset and Paul Bucheit&#8217;s &#8220;don&#8217;t be evil&#8221; taped to their company motto.  This garners them too much good will.</p>
<p>I hope that more folks will start holding their feet to the fire on this sort of stuff. The Islamic terrorism genre isn&#8217;t the only area where they really fail in their duties to uphold free speech and common decency.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep calling them out as long as you do, deal?</p>
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